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Real Life Haunt: Mallory Cywinski
Real Life Haunt: Mallory Cywinski
Our RLH is Mallory Cywinski, who wrote a book detailing her encounters with the paranormal, while finding a great community to help her deal with postpartum depression. Throughout the episode, Mallory shares several haunting stories about her experiences. Despite the distressing nature of her encounters, Mallory found solace in the paranormal community. The episode is perfect for those interested in paranormal experiences, mental health, and personal narratives of overcoming adversity.
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Real Life Haunt: Mallory Cywinski
Transcript
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Tell us.
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About our real life, huh?
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Well, this week y'all is a real treasure.
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Mallory joined us to tell us about not just the book that she's written about her paranormal experiences.
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But she gave us a little.
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Taste of some of the experiences she's had.
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And one thing.
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I wanted to share that I thought was really interesting about Mallory's story.
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Before we get into it, is that, you know, she was really able to find a community in.
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This paranormal world.
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So people like us that like to just listen to spooky stories and, you know, talk about this sort of thing.
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It was something that was really sort.
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Sort of.
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Soothing and help.
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Fool for her in a time of need.
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So that's why she named her book.
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Making friends with ghost.
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Take a listen to her story.
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So my name is Mallory Sawinski.
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I live just outside Philadelphia, PA with my husband, my son, my daughter and my dog.
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And today is actually the release day for my first book in the paranormal genre.
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Been a crazy.
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It's a lot.
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So much fun.
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Kind of scary.
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And it's just been so fun, revisiting how I got started and what, really.
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It got me to dive into this and that's pretty much honestly what the book is about, at least to start.
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When I had my son, I had really bad postpartum depression.
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Really bad and I looked around and I was like I need to get outside of myself, so I just threw myself into every hobby I've ever had and I ended up.
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I was always into the paranormal.
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I always like ghost stories.
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Had some weird stuff happen as a kid, but I had never thought that I could investigate like.
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The people I see on TV and the shows that I was obsessed with, and then I went to a paracon at Pennhurst State School, and I realized I could go do that.
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And so as part of my postpartum depression recovery, I started paranormal investigating and I haven't.
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Looked back, I have always.
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Just like the.
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Idea that there's more than the plane that we exist on, there's more than getting up in the morning, going to work, you know, paying the bills, you know, being with loved ones.
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There's there has to be some mystical aspect in those moments where you feel that gut feeling.
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It's like what is?
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That and when I went on.
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My very first.
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Ghost Hunt at Fort Mifflin in Philadelphia.
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I had I had the.
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Parallel side of things figuratively grab me by the chin and.
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Be like hey, check this out.
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This is you.
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Know it goes surreal and this stuff can be real.
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And I mean, once I think once you get a taste of that, it's pretty hard to stop looking for the next.
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And the next and the.
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Next the 1st.
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And the first experience I have, this is so cliche, but it was a doll. It involved a doll and I was upstairs. I was maybe maybe 8789 somewhere in there.
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And I had this really awesome dollhouse, and it was like.
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As tall as I was, it was like my prized possession and I was playing with it.
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And I went when I played with it.
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I was really into it, really focused on that thing.
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And then my dad would go on these.
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Business trips and he would.
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Always bring me back.
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A doll and one time he brought me home.
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This little Navajo.
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I felt doll and like this blue dress I can like I can.
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See it in.
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My mind's eye and I had, like a shelf going around the top of my bedroom where I would kind of tuck all my my toys and stuff.
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And I always like to say that I don't think she liked it up there because one day one afternoon I was playing with my dollhouse, super absorbed in it, and something must have caught my eye.
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I don't think I heard something.
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I think I saw something out of my periphery and I looked up and this Navajo doll was floating through the air at me.
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Perfectly vertical in flight wasn't like when you throw a ball.
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Usually you know tumbles like.
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Over itself and.
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It hit me.
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In the face and it, and it fell to the ground.
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And I looked at it, and I was instantly annoyed because I was like my brother just did that, you know, in your brain I wasn't.
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I was eight years old.
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I wasn't.
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Like oh this.
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Is parable evidence?
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I thought my.
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You know, I thought my brother had been like, oh, she's playing her house.
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I'm gonna check this out.
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And run downstairs.
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Pretend I didn't.
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So I'm I like store out of my room.
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Go to find him, whip.
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Open the bathroom door and he spent in there like, OK, fine. He ran downstairs and I run. I go downstairs and my mom's like, pass her. And I'm like, did did then just come through here. She's like what?
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And she he.
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Had been in the kitchen, like making a sandwich for like 30.
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Minutes at that point.
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I was like what?
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Does that.
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Thing so I'm standing.
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At the bottom of my stairs and.
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I'm like, what if I?
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Go upstairs and this thing.
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Is now where I left it not to ramble on, but years later I'm I'm.
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The parental investigator and I'm reading all these books and trying to learn as much as I can in Hans Holzer.
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You wrote in the ghost hunter.
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I came across a a sentence where he's like there's these Indian style dolls and they hop off the shelf and sometimes.
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They hit people.
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And I was like.
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Ohh my goodness.
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Like OK universe I.
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Hear you, OK?
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So my book is called making friends with ghosts.
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And when I came up with the.
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Title I'm like OK.
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This it kind of means two things so.
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What I found on these ghost hunts is that you know that they they do exist.
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But I'm also finding that the community that you.
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That you find when you are a parental investigator, if you can find the right ones, I mean that's that has meant a lot to me.
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And just and you know, some of the things have come across.
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I don't often have evidence that I walk away or that I can share as easily.
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I'm kind of.
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I've been always been in it for, like, the visceral feeling, the moment that was kind of.
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The whole point to me.
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Was something to Get Me Out of myself.
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I mean, I feel like I've I've really kind of talked ad nauseam about some crazy stuff that happened to me at Fort Mifflin or at the Shanling.
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Hell, most recently I was at a a much smaller location with friends, one who had met through social media and one was my best friend of 20 years and.
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Trying to think how to how to say this and maintain some privacy for who would involve.
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But the caretaker of this local location like apparel location.
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He had recently passed away and it was it was so fast and it was really unfortunate because he had been not a close friend of mine, but someone that I talked to and the visit that I was on that I arrived for he had.
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Helped me schedule and I had done everything through him and by the time I got to the site on the day.
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That we had.
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Discussed he was gone in my head.
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Was never going to.
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Reach out to him.
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You know, I just felt disrespectful.
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It was really.
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Recent, but then, as the night went.
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On I was like, well, you know what?
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I just it won't record it because nothing was really happening.
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It was kind of a quiet night and then I started.
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We were sitting in an upstairs bedroom and we had our EF tripwire.
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And it wasn't doing much kind of staying, staying steady.
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And I was going through names of the house.
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Do you know so and so do you know so and so kind of listening through the history that I knew.
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And then on a whim, I.
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Don't know what came over me.
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And I'll change his name here.
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And I was like, do you know Kim?
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And that thing lit up like the.
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4th of July.
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And I have goosebumps now like the timing.
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And just and then it happened again a few seconds later. I was like, so, you know, Tim. And it lit up again and then we had the SB-7 going and my friend heard, I know Tim through it.
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Like it's moments like those.
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Where you just are like.
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What was that?
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Because I don't think it was my friend specifically.
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I just I.
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Don't I don't.
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Know why I feel that way, but I do.
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And I feel like.
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That was a little for me personally.
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That was a little bit of evidence that.
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The the ghosts in a location or spirits or whatever you want to call them.
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They do recognize the living, and maybe they mourn them too.
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This person had spent so much time there and he cared about it so much, he.
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Was always championing like.
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He would get.
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If you call it a smaller location, you know.
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Like I just did, you know?
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Because it's it's a.
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Smaller house, but it was so active.
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And it really is kind of a focal point of.
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Like the paranormal community around here.
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And so to have.
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A response about a mutual friend.
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It was kind of like.
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It was almost like I don't know, it was.
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Almost like we.
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Were at a memorial together or we were like taking a minute to remember someone else.
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This with the ghost like it was a very strange kind of emotional interaction which you do not always get on an investigation.
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I mean in particular at the shambling cause, I think that's that was for.
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Me like the holy.
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Grail cause I saw a full body apparition.
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Non transparent and I will never forget.
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I literally every day since since March 20.
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21 I've replayed.
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Those couple of seconds in my head at some point during the making my coffee in the morning and I'm like, Oh yeah, remember that time I saw.
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It's it's one of those things.
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And I I like to say like I'm a skeptical believer as much as I do this and I love I love ghost hunts, parental investigations, whatever you wanna call sometimes until you experience the thing yourself, you are always a little bit of an eye roll a little bit.
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Of like, yeah, right.
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You know, and then when it happens, you're.
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Like I am.
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Such a jerk.
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OK.
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Apparently this can happen.
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And I need to go, like, mentally apologize to when I was like, OK, whatever.
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So I think in both.
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Of those locations, I experienced things that I had heard about and always kind of been.
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Like. Yeah, right, you know.
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I I don't know.
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Like it's as much as I trust other people and I don't judge people because.
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You know the passion that they're telling their stories with, I think until you see a full body apparition.
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Because it it happened so fast, and I think in your head you're like, oh, it's like that person's hanging out for a couple of minutes and you get to really, like, take it it it was like maybe 3 seconds. And I was taking off, running toward toward this thing, and it was gone.
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And I think that really was kind of a slap to my face.
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Like, hey, like, don't judge other stories so much, you know, so I'm very.
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I'm still cautious and I still take everything.
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With a skeptical grain of salt.
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It did help.
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Kind of like, you know, proof is in the pudding I saw.
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It with my own eyes.
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So I do and I I believe that's what I saw so.
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I have to sort of.
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Try and believe other people when they tell me what they have.
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Seen also.
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I was on a team with one of my good friends at that point and we had been in the paranormal, I guess for like about a year in change at that point and we had, we were growing sort of a little community of some people that we had met through other investigations and a few friends online.
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And so it was kind.
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Of our first hosting duties, we.
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Had kind of.
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Gathered up a little group that we wanted to.
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We wanted to spearhead our night.
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We had always, like, been invited to other ones or we had gone to public hunts or what have you.
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And so that night.
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It was all close friends.
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We had like the goal guide and Courtney Eastman that was there.
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And some friends, some other friends that we had met just around us.
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And just before I saw the apparition, we had actually already.
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Having sessions for like 5 hours at that point and we were on a break and I was sipping coffee.
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And one of my friends, I we were just chatting and she kind of leaned down to get something in her bag and I was just kind of like, zoning out.
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Waiting for the.
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Caffeine to really, you know, kick in and they're standing in the safe room.
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And hello, a little a ghost just walked by the hallway at the end of the hallway, and I believe I cursed, which I'll leave out here.
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But I was like, what is that?
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Is that and I took off running.
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And everyone was like, you were so funny.
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Cause like I'm already very pale.
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But they're like when you came back.
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So I ran in and I followed it.
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Hope because I thought I thought for sure it was a person.
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I thought it was someone at the hotel.
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No, no shade on the Shanley, but like.
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When you see something like that, I'm not just gonna be like.
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You know, trust it.
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So I went off to catch this person, and there was nowhere, nowhere for them to go and.
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They were gone.
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So when I walked back out, everyone was like you were like the color white, like you were even paler than you are on an average day.
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I mean, the Shanley has a has an extensive.
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History and I had a lot of.
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It had a lot of different it.
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It was used in a lot of different ways and it was, you know, it was a private home of James Shanley and he used.
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To have rocking.
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Parties, from what I hear with, you know, Presidents presidential candidates, it was a.
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Really big you.
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Know they love big dinner parties and they had.
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Card games and all that.
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There was a a barbershop at the back, which is.
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Where I saw.
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The operation was kind of that hallway, but that hallway also became late.
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In later years.
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It was the bordello area.
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When it was a gentlemen's club and the hallway is just past the door to the upstairs bordello where the ladies of the night.
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Would take the gentleman.
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And you know, give them their services, et cetera, et cetera.
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So in my gut, I feel like the billowing figure that I saw was from that era of this, of the Shandling.
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Life and the building just has has so many pieces to it and so many people love it and so many investigators have such amazing experiences there.
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It's one of those places every every section that you go has a different vibe and I love places like that because you're never really.
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With them.
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Uh, well, so it's funny.
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So I just, I was just back there for the first time since my first visit.
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I was just back there two weekends.
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Ago with friends, so I think everyone thinks it's haunted.
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Because of all the crazy stuff that happens there.
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I think that and then I think they work.
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So if you subscribed this year to water energy, it is right next to.
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The river next to Philadelphia.
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You know the casements are kind of underground.
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It served, as you know, military headquarters for a long time.
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It, you know, they say it helped to.
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Hold off the British.
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In the war.
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And then it did have a little bit.
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It was.
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It's been used up until World War Two.
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But for world wars one and two, it was more of a storage area and training facility, but it has officers barracks.
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It has, you know, underground prison cells.
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It has a torpedo case mate, which is really cool to see a powder magazine.
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The commandants house.
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Like it's one of those.
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This is like, again, it's so compartmentalized.
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It's crazy.
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And I mean, if you really wanna be a ghost nerd, it was featured on it's really good episode of Ghost Hunters back in.
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The day.
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Which is why.
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I was excited because Grant and Jay, like, had amazing experiences and kiss me.
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Even in 2020, I had a pretty crazy experience and it's it. All centers on the case mates for me and I think all my friends are sick of hearing me.
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Say the word case mate.
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At this.
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That's where it happened so.
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In 2020.
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In case need 5 which is, you know everyone always says it's the most haunted place.
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In the Fort and.
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I'm like, OK, but I like I had experienced nothing.
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At this point.
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Like in total it was my very first ghost hunt and I went in there not knowing that this apparent ghost prefers blondes, which I am, although I'm only a box blonde, I just want to say I'm not actually blonde, so I fooled this ghost.
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But I we heard a disembodied voice straight up.
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My friend walked a few feet in front of me and she said, do you want us to leave?
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And we both heard a voice go.
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Like with a motion.
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And and I could point to the spot in the case, mate, that it was.
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And a little later on, I felt my hair touched.
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And then later we brought in some equipment and it went, it went crazy and then two weekends ago, wanting to kind of check out the case needs and see if I had built it up in my mind.
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And I'm going ohh.
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Won't be as scary.
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And it was a little less scary.
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I was I.
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Was I have more?
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Experience going into places like that, I tell.
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You what? We.
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Every so we went straight to kiss me at 5:00.
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And every time we would leave, we'd.
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Hear a huge bang noise and we would go.
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Back in the case, we fight.
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Same vibe. It's like please.
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Don't leave that was that was.
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But and eventually we had no equipment with us and we were, so we said to each other.
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We're like, we need to go grab something.
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Cause something's happening.
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So I booked it.
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I ran.
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Back to our safe room.
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Grabbed my stuff and ran back.
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And my friends are a little more leisurely.
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They were kind of talking about stuff, but I was like, it's.
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Happening I don't want.
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To waste it sometimes it only happens for so long.
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I end up back.
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At the case made hallway.
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I'm not even in the.
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Hallway yet and and this is I just put this on my Instagram page and I was so embarrassed.
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And I'm like, I am like, screaming like a.
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Baby here, but I.
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Took a foot at a step into the hallway and I hear something directly.
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In front of me.
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Maybe maybe 3 feet in front of me.
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A heavy.
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Footstep and a thud.
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Screamed the book.
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It it is.
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It's a lot of ghost stories.
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It's kind of a it's a weird amalgamation because I think that while I'm telling a lot of ghost stories, I'm telling a lot of history of the spooky places that I've been to.
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For me, I think the most important part of the.
00:18:47 Speaker 3
Book is that I went to all these places in the first place.
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I was coming.
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From a really.
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Dark sad stagnant time as a mom and all I did for a long time.
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Was be a mom.
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And I was kind of losing myself.
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And when.
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I realized that it was OK.
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That I could be weird.
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Jump into my weird parts and not like it added such.
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Light into my life again and it really I felt so invigorated.
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And it it positively affected all my other ways and I was even a better mom because.
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My cup was.
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Full and I think that's important and I think that's.
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Not talked about enough.
00:19:28 Speaker 2
You know, I just love so much that Mallory talks about.
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You know, being able to join this paranormal community after she was dealing with some postpartum stuff and really being able to find like an outlet for herself to sort of find herself again and also.
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So, you know, have some friends to talk to and like, go do these paranormal investigations with.
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Obviously we don't have kids, but going from our friendship and how it does sound crazy to think that the paranormal kind of brings you together, but it does in a way when you find people who have that like mindedness.
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Me and you are a prime example of that, you know.
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It sounds crazy that something like ghosts and in weird stuff like that could bring people together, but it really does.
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And I can.
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Know you're not the only weirdo out there.
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And I think it's neat that she found that home within that community.
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Well and it.
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Makes me think too of, you know, like the my favorite murder community.
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Like the murder arena.
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Because, you know, sometimes you don't like to admit that you find true crime and, like murder stories.
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Soothing to listen.
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To when you're driving down the road.
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But you know, obviously there is, you know, this appetite for community that we all share as humans.
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And you know, we like to find.
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People that share our same interest, so I just really love that about Mallory's story and how she's been able to find that by doing her paranormal investigations and.
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You know, now she's.
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With her book trying to share the same Ave.
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for other people that might be struggle.
00:21:15 Speaker 2
So definitely check out her book, making friends with ghosts.
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Mother's unusual journey through self discovery.
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I love the.
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Name of that book.
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So cute.
00:21:26 Speaker 2
And if you have a story, we would love to hear it. So e-mail us at the unrestpodcast@gmail.com.
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Or find us on social media.
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We got Instagram, we got Facebook, we got TikTok, all the social medias hit us up wherever. It's easiest for you and share your stories with us.
00:21:46 Speaker 2
But until next time, until next time.
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Unrest in peace.
