The Unrest Podcast

Real Life Haunt: Michael Cline

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Join us for another spine-tingling episode of The Unrest Podcast where delve into the unsettling experiences of Michael, who worked for a company located in a haunted building. Prepare to be captivated as Michael recounts the eerie occurrences that plagued his workplace, from unexplained noises during the day to a chilling encounter that defied rational explanation.

Intriguingly, Michael's unsettling journey doesn't end there. He takes us on a soul-searching expedition to a remote monastery in Siberia. Here, he reveals a haunting tale of a tragic event that unfolded at this monastery, forever leaving an indelible mark on his spiritual being.

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Real Life Haunt: Michal Cline

Transcript

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The unrest, the unrest, the Unrest Podcast, podcast, podcast.

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Welcome to the Unrest podcast.

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I'm Caitlin Stan.

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I want to start this.

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Episode by talking about something interesting I saw the other day.

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OK, so I like follow this.

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Daily Mail like Snapchat, Like magazine?

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I guess so.

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One of the stories on there was talking about how people are like going to World War Two concentration camps and taking like influencer style photos outside or inside.

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He's like very historical.

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Tragic monuments to millions of people who have died.

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Yeah, they're going to be haunted.

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Well, and those are the.

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People that you hope are.

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To learn a lesson to like respect the dead. But I just remember like, there's this one image where this girl's like on the train tracks.

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Leading into one of the concentration camps and like there's this guy in front of her.

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On the railroad tracks, like with her hand behind her head like pose, and he's like taking a picture.

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And all these people are like standing around looking, looking at them like, what the hell?

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Like how and they're saying.

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That's like, super disgusting. Almost.

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That gives me like.

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It just like kind of, yeah.

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And ****** me off.

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Yeah, I think it ****** me now.

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I I don't know how old these people were, but I'm.

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Assuming they were probably young.

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They looked younger, yeah.

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And I try so hard whenever I hear like the older generations talk about.

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The younger generation, like I do my best to take up for him because it's just it's a whole different time.

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Like they don't understand.

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It's just different.

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And so I try to take up for them because I'm like, just because it wasn't that way for you doesn't mean that that was the right.

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Way, but then ****.

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Are you ******* kidding me?

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It's all about respect.

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I think that's the bottom line.

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Like, you just need to have a very general level of respect to know not to do something like that, so.

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So anyways, I just thought that was really interesting and sort of piqued my interest because.

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I mean that is just the number one example of not respecting the dead.

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And that's one thing that I hope comes across in this show.

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And not even just.

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The dead, like the tragically.

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And I I just.

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Hope that that's one thing that comes.

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Across in this show.

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Is that like we do this because this is something we respectfully are interested in and we believe that if you're able to talk about this stuff with other people like it creates a community and sort of opens up others to share their experiences.

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So anyways, I just thought that was so wild and crazy and like, I mean you see that stuff from time to time.

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People doing stuff like that, but it's so icky.

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Yeah it does.

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Flow into my story very well.

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So our real.

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Life haunt this.

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Week is Michael and he is from the states.

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Originally, but he now lives in Barcelona.

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How amazing is that?

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And when I experienced that one day.

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But he shares with me a story from his younger days working in a building in the states.

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And then he also shares a story from his traveling in Siberia.

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I think when I was younger I I had always kind of seen things.

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And I wouldn't.

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I wouldn't exactly call it like.

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Paranormal stuff. I think it was more spiritual stuff for me. I could be 100% wrong, but I've always been.

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I've always been a skeptic, you know, with like, you know, psychics and ghosts and.

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UFOs like I'm always sort of on the fence.

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Do I believe?

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Do I not believe until I have an experience so?

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You know, once I have an experience, then I sort.

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Of I have my proof.

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I was working in Pennington, NJ, which is the really small town. It's kind of close to Princeton if you're familiar with Princeton, like Princeton University.

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It's not too far from there, kind of.

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Central New Jersey.

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I was working for a graphic design firm and.

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There were only about 15.

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Employees plus the owner and the cool thing is the building. I believe it was built in the early 1800s. Eighteen, 10 keeps coming to mind, although I could be way off, but it was an old building.

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And the owner of the.

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Company who had purchased the building.

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He had done a little bit of research and he had actually located and purchased a photo of the original owners and the building used to be a general store. It was two-story building and on the top floor was where the owners.

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And when he purchased the building, I think it was, I don't know if it was residential, if someone had was living there, but he had.

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He had bought this building and it was it was interesting and it was old and he kept a lot of the features in it. This was in the early 2000s. I worked there for maybe.

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Four or five years, and when I started work.

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King, not the owner, but some of the employees.

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Some of the people I worked with kind of with Joe can say like, oh, have you met the ghost yet?

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It's like, what are you talking about?

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The ghost and everyone would kind of chuckle and laugh.

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I probably worked there about six months when.

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Like I said, we only had about 15 employees and we were all downstairs.

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No one was on the 2nd floor and we were having a very impromptu meeting.

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With the owner.

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And in the middle of this meeting, we.

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Hear a door closed.

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And it obviously came from upstairs.

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I didn't think anything of it.

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Some of the other employees chuckled.

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But mostly it went ignored.

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I didn't think anything of it, so that was sort of the first time that I had hurt something like I knew no one was upstairs and I thought, man, you know, it's it's a door a.

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Window is open or what?

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Ever the only history that I know is that it it.

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It was a general store at one time, there were hitching posts out front and the photo of the business that the owner had found.

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It was 2, gentlemen.

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They're kind of standing proudly in front of the building.

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That's the only history that I know.

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Is that it?

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It was a general.

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It's kind of an interesting neighborhood.

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It was zoned, partially commercial and partially residential.

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So there were.

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Still, there's a lot of houses, a lot of old homes on this street.

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It was kind of a quiet St.

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in this town and caddy corner to the building that I worked in was a very, very old church.

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It had a small cemetery in the in the behind it and I had explored there one day on a lunch break.

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And most of the tombstones were soldiers from the Revolutionary War and also from the Civil War.

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It was really interesting, you know.

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It wasn't marked, you know, it wasn't like, come here to see, you know, these these soldiers from the Revolutionary War and from.

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The civil war.

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So it was kind of an interesting and interesting little neighborhood.

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Soon after I was there, and after I had heard that first door closed, I started to notice.

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I guess we can call them anomalies.

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The the layout of the building was a ground floor and it was all open and you know there were computers and desks and whatnot.

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And then you.

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Will go up one of these old style stairs that were kind of really steep and narrow and you would get onto.

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The second floor.

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And I'm assuming at one time that's where the bedrooms were.

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And like there was an old fireplace on the 2nd floor was really beautiful, beautiful building and a lot of the a lot of the original materials were still there.

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I mostly worked on the 2nd floor.

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I was I was printing large format posters so we had.

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We were using the bedrooms and we had all this different equipment in there.

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So you would go up the stairs and you would enter.

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What I assumed was a bedroom at one time and then there was a long hallway.

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And there was a bathroom and there were 1-2. There were three rooms up there, and I worked in one of these rooms. Sometimes when I would walk down the hallway.

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I would hit a cold spot like it was freezing.

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And it could be.

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It could be the middle of summer.

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And we didn't have air conditioning, so we always had the windows open during the summer, but there were times where you would walk and.

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All of a sudden it was just ice cold.

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Absolutely no explanation for it and everyone had experienced that.

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And I do remember the first time it happened, I had questioned one of my.

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Coworkers saying like.

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Hey, come here.

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Feel this, you know.

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He didn't even get out of his chair.

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Said yeah, yeah, it.

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Happens all the time it it became.

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Incredibly common, like the longer that I worked there.

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There were plenty of.

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Times we were all on the main floor and you.

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Would hear footsteps.

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Someone on the 2nd floor when we knew there was no one there and you could hear them walking and and hear the floorboards which were original and all you would.

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Like great, great, great.

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And you can you, you?

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Can hear the sound of someone walking.

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From one end to the other, that probably happened.

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Three or four times a month.

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The building had a really good vibe to it.

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It it didn't feel frightening or scary.

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I had kind of grown used to it.

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The occasional cold spot, the occasional door closing, or the footsteps I never really gave it much thought because you know everyone there was so.

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Used to it and we would.

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We would kind of laugh at times and yell and.

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Say like we hear.

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You and then of course it would stop and there were plenty of times.

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Where we would hear.

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And I would go.

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Upstairs and there was no one up there like that to me.

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There was no real explanation for it until I had a real encounter.

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So I used to work long hours for this business.

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There were, there were many, many, many nights where I worked there alone.

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And I may be there till midnight.

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One in the morning.

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You know, it was a it was a deadline based printing.

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So if work came in at 5:00 o'clock, I usually volunteered, said I'll I'll stay until the work is done.

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So there were plenty of times that I worked in there.

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And I can tell you, I was never afraid.

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I never felt any kind of an evil presence.

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And to be honest, I never really felt.

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Any kind of a presence there other than the cold spots and the footsteps and the creaking doors and you know all the classic stuff.

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But I never I.

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Was never afraid.

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And one night I was working late.

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I was alone.

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And it was probably.

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Oh, I don't know.

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Maybe midnight and I was working downstairs and I start to hear the footsteps.

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And I was having problems with some of the the printing equipment and I wasn't in a very good mood.

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And I would.

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Start to yell like, hey, I'm trying to work, you know, like and.

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It kept happening and it kept happening.

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So of course I went upstairs and walked through a cold spot, did a check to make sure no one was there, although I was positive gnomes there.

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And it stopped and went back downstairs.

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And I'm working on a piece of equipment I'm printing out these posters and I'm looking at the clock going.

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Ohh, it's midnight.

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I want to go.

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Home and I suddenly felt the presence of another person.

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Like the hair on the back.

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Of my neck stood up.

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And I turned around 10 feet in front of Maine was what looked to be like an old Steamboat captain Long, black, almost like a trench coat.

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But something that would be worn maybe in the 1800s with the big buttons.

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And the big collar and.

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He had, like, a big pocket watch.

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And I can tell that he was like a very important person.

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Big, long beard, big mustache, some kind of crazy black.

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Not really cowboy hat, but like a round hat.

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And he just stared at me.

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And I stared at him.

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And I thought, like, Oh my God, I'm like.

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That's the man that's been walking around upstairs.

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I turned around.

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To check what I was printing.

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And I looked back, expecting him.

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Not to be there.

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And he was still there.

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It was an intense moment, and I never felt any fear, and we just kind of stared at each other for a few seconds.

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And then he wasn't there.

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It was like it wasn't like he dissolved and faded away.

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He was there and then he wasn't there.

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And I kind.

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Of shook my head.

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That was a real experience.

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I didn't feel any fear.

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I didn't feel like this.

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Entity that was in front of Maine wanted to do me any harm.

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He wasn't evil.

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I think he.

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Was just saying.

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Hey, I'm the guy that you're walking around like like it was an introduction.

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Told everyone, including the owner.

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And to my surprise, no one had ever seen, like an apparition that I did, but no one was very excited about it either.

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Just like oh oh.

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Like, was he nice?

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I feel like I definitely can feel when there's a a different energy in a space and I don't know if it's because I worked in that building and I maybe developed a higher sense to it, but since then I've never really had any.

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Any experience as exciting as the few years that I worked there?

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You know, after I had seen this, this what I assumed to be an old ship captain.

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I don't know why I.

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Thought he was a.

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Ship captain, but that was the.

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Message sort of that I got.

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I don't know.

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It's it's kind of.

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Hard to say. It's like.

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I think I'm a believer now.

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It wasn't like drugs or alcohol.

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Or, you know, I was overtired I.

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Was just sort.

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Of annoyed that I was hearing all this noise and I was having a rough.

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Night at work. The the.

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Cold spots and the noise is never stopped.

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I mean that that continued.

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It wasn't like he made his appearance, and then it all went away.

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But I had never seen him again.

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I think everyone has has the ability.

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To feel different energies, that kind of thing.

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But I think most people are probably blind to it and they don't realize that when they have.

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Uneasy feeling that maybe there's spirits.

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Or maybe there's energy in the same place where they are, I mean.

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I I've had.

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Had I've had more spiritual experiences like that than?

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Ghosts or apparitions?

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I can tell you quickly.

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I've traveled to Siberia three times and I actually.

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Wrote a book about.

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It and on my first trip to Siberia, I went with a friend to visit an old Buddhist temple.

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And this temple.

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During the 1950s was actually burned down by the by the Soviets at that time, and I think there were 500 monks who were studying there and they were all executed. So this place has a.

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It has a dark history, sort of.

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When you visit this part of Siberia is sort of one of the things you do.

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You take this long like 10 hour drive to go visit this.

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The ruins of this temple and there's really nothing there.

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It's just this open field and there's this.

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Burned down temple.

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The only thing that's left is sort of the foundation and what you're supposed to do is you're supposed to walk around the the perimeter.

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Of this old temple three times clockwise, it has something to do with Buddhism.

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And I can tell you, as I was quietly walking around the building kind of kind of contemplating and thinking about what had happened here, I suddenly felt two very distinct emotions.

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And the first one was sadness and it.

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Was a deep.

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Deep sorrow and the other one was sort of.

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I don't want to call it joy, but it was more.

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Like a hopeful feeling.

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Because, like the Dalai Lama had visited this site and and Buddhists from around the world go to this site.

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So simultaneously I was feeling like the suffering that happened there, but also the hope.

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Of this this event not being forgotten.

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So I definitely didn't.

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I didn't see anything.

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I don't have any apparition, but I definitely tuned in to some very chaotic energy that had happened at this place.

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It was definitely a moment and the friend of the friend of mine that I was with that had taken me there.

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He he's a local.

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He's a Siberian man.

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And as I'm feeling all of this, I I I breakdown I I start to cry and I'm literally on my knees and I'm like sobbing.

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Like, I'm like, really losing my mind.

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I'm just, like, so over.

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Well, after a minute kind of got up, dried my tears away and I walked over to him.

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I said, oh man, I'm really sorry.

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And he just smiled and he said, Michael, you're not the only person that's cried here.

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So I thought that was that was kind of heavy.

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I didn't question it because I understood I understood.

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Other people have been there that probably.

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Felt the same energy that I did.

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If you want to Google that location, it's called ustu.

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Hurray, the Republic of Tuva.

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They do a music festival there every couple of years and they were they were taking the the profits from this festival and they actually rebuilt A replica of this temple, which is maybe, I don't know, a football field away.

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It's sort of in the same field.

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Very, very interesting places, super spiritual place.

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You don't have to be.

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Like a practicing Buddhist to to go there and and maybe feel something.

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I'm a U.S.

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I'm currently living in in Barcelona, Spain.

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And you know, I don't think I've ever heard anyone here speak about ghosts.

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But I have heard plenty of people speak about spirituality or about an energy of a place.

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There's there's a very famous mountain range not too far outside of Barcelona that's called Montserrat.

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And monster that is this big, crazy mountain chain.

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And there is a there's a Christian monastery there that was built, I think they first started building it in like the year.

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I don't know the 1300s, but it's super old and I've been there quite a few times.

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And it's sort of a Catholic pilgrimage site.

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A lot of people like myself, who are more spirituality based, go there.

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And I can tell you, if you ever visit these mountains, you will feel something.

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There's there's an energy there, it it's, it's powerful and it's strong.

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And oddly enough, there's a lot of UFO sightings around these mountains. Energetically rich place logically, if you do the math, we can't be the only the only intelligent life form in the known universe. I did see one UFO as a child. I I grew up in Trenton, NJ.

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And I think when I was around 9:00 or 10:00, I was out at night with two cousins and my aunt.

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And we all saw UFO like in the city.

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It was the IT was kind of odd and.

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We all saw it.

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We all acknowledged that we saw it.

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It was sort of boomerang shaped and.

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It was sort of.

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Like the color of the moon.

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You know, like a whitish yellow.

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And I couldn't tell you how high in the sky it was.

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It didn't make sound.

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It was there.

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We all sort of went.

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Ohh what's that?

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And then it disappeared and then it was just it was gone.

00:21:43 Speaker 4

So I'm a believer in UFOs and not not only because I saw one.

00:21:48 Speaker 4

I just believe logically.

00:21:51 Speaker 4

If you do the math, there has to be other intelligent life.

00:21:58 Speaker 2

I love what you know, he was saying about much of the world besides the United States, you know, looks at the afterlife or ghosts or whatever you want to call it.

00:22:08 Speaker 2

And more of a spiritual sin.

00:22:11 Speaker 2

Whereas here we almost like commercialize.

00:22:13 Speaker 3

It right, I think we're changing a little bit to the more spiritualistic type thing, especially like with more people, you know, when COVID came around and everyone was anti vaccine so they became very holistic all of a sudden.

00:22:30 Speaker 3

So now it's like.

00:22:30 Speaker 2

They're more open to these ideas now.

00:22:33 Speaker 3

Right now they're being more spiritualistic, and so I do think that I.

00:22:37 Speaker 3

Do feel like?

00:22:38 Speaker 3

A change kind of coming in, but we are very much commercial, very focused on like being scared.

00:22:47 Speaker 2

The shock factor of it.

00:22:49 Speaker 3

So it was definitely interesting to hear that take.

00:22:52 Speaker 3

And I figured that that was probably the the way it went, you know, just cause I've never been to another country.

00:22:59 Speaker 3

But I've like, I've looked into it and stuff like that and you just get that feeling, you know.

00:23:04 Speaker 2

Well, and I feel like even the way they.

00:23:07 Speaker 2

Tell their history and, like, memorialize their historic.

00:23:13 Speaker 2

Buildings and castles and all that.

00:23:16 Speaker 2

Obviously we don't have necessarily the same level of historic artifacts as they do in Europe and other countries, but.

00:23:23 Speaker 2

There's, like, there's just a lot of respect.

00:23:25 Speaker 2

Surrounding all of that and very intentional around how they preserve them for you know.

00:23:33 Speaker 2

Decades and decades to.

00:23:36 Speaker 2

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But until now.

00:24:14 Speaker 3

Until next time.

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Unrest in peace.